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Pokemon - He has Which Badges?
In this episode, Ash meets a Marowak trainer (forgotten the name!) who has collected eight badges, but has had them stolen by Team Rocket. Because of this, his Marowak won't obey him any more. He cries about how his Marowak helped him in every battle, and it shows pictures of Marowak defeating the same gym leaders that Ash beat. But later in the episode, Team Rocket open the box to admire the badges. But... none of the badges are from the gyms that Marowak battled in! Unless the gym leaders were giving out limited edition badges of different shapes, sizes and colors, this is pretty much impossible.
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@ssKicker on 11-24-2000
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Timtim writes:
But if another kid had the badges, then the badges in that Marowak episode were indeed genuine and were actually displaying the same badges Ash has gotten. Does that mean other gyms exist out there? Of course! In Pokemon R/B/Y, there are exactly 8 gyms. In the cartoon, Ash *goes* to those 8 gyms, but in reality there are more. Remember when one of the episodes stated Gary having 10 badges? Furthermore, Gary didn't get the Volcano badge or the Earthbadge (Gary regarded Cinnabar Island as a vacation spot, and Gary couldn't defeat the armored Pokemon disguised as Mewtwo). The whole point of it is, "another kid" can indeed have strange badges, which he could have obtained from other gyms. The Marowak trainer couldn't have had different badges because of the flashbacks he had. To sum it all up, it was another kid who had the strange badges and not the Marowak trainer, and thus this is not a valid slipup IMO.
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Timtim writes:
To Sean: I made a typo; thanks for pointing that out. I actually meant to say, "in reality, in the cartoon" (though that sentence sounds contradictory within itself :P) But to @ssKicker; I would have to double check if the badges Team Rocket shown were different badges. I remember another Pokemon trainer showing Team Rocket his badges, and *THOSE* badges were different. I thought you mistook those badges for the Marowak trainer's badges, but I'm pretty sure I saw the same badges Ash has gotten. If anyone can definitely verify this other than @sskicker please let me know. I was mainly arguing against MetalMike's theory that another kid cannot have strange badges, but this was false because (1) Gary had 10 badges when Ash had 8, and Gary hadn't begun his Johto League journey yet. (2) Gary couldn't earn a (i) Volcano badge because he didn't think a gym existed in Cinnabar Island (ii) Earth badge because he couldn't defeat Mewtwo.
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MetalMike writes:
Look, the Marowak trainer beat THE SAME GYM LEADERS ASH DID. Not another group, as in the argument that 'there are other gyms'. Another kid could have the strange badges, fine; he could have defeated other gyms. But the Marowak trainer DIDN'T.
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JoseReyes writes:
No, the badges were in the same basket that Otoshi was carrying. Therefore, this is a valid slip-up.
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Derek writes:
I'm sorry, but this is wrong. Another kid had the strange badges.
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MetalMike writes:
Your point, Derek? just because another kid had it doesnt let this guy have it. A great slip-up.
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@ssKicker writes:
Maybe this will explain: The Marowak trainer had had all his badges stolen by Team Rocket. Later in the show, Team Rocket show us the badges. They are not the same badges as the ones shown in the flash-back. And the Marowak trainer would definitely know which badges were really his.
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SunScout2000 writes:
Very well summed up Timtim.
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Sean writes:
What do ya mean Timtim? IN REALITY?! IT'S A CARTOON/VIDEO GAME SERIES/TCG!
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MetalMike writes:
....HELLO! What @$$kicker meant was that since the trainer beat the RBY gym leaders, such as Brock, Misty, Lt.Surge, etc., that his badges should be the Boulder Badge, Raindrop(wrong name but o well) Badge, Thunder Badge, ect. He CANT have the other badges from different gyms because he didn't fight different gyms.
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MetalMike writes:
And I never said that another kid cannot have the badges, I said that even if the other kid had the badges, that doesn't mean everyone should.
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Timtim writes:
MetalMike, this is what you said: "Your point, Derek? just because another kid had it doesnt let this guy have it. " in response to "Another kid has the strange badges." You were missing the issue here; here it is: 1) Another kid has the strange badges. 2) The guy who said (1) said how the slipup was wrong, and that another kid has the strange badges. 3) You said just because another kid has the strange badges, that doesn't mean the Marowak trainer can't have strange badges too. 4) The guy above, who said "another kid has the strange badges" only meant that the slipup was incorrect; as a result, it was *ONLY* the other kid who had the strange badges, and not the Marowak trainer. My logic was: 1) If another kid has the strange badges, the person talking about the Marowak trainer is incorrect in saying that the Marowak trainer was showing different versions of the badges Ash has gotten. 2) The slipup was wrong, because the person who originally posted the slipup mistook the Marowak trainer to another trainer within that episode who presented his badges. Without swaying off topic, the real question pertaining to the issue is this: Who has strange badges? a) The Marowak trainer b) the other trainer c) BOTH? By the slipup poster, the answer is (c). By Metalmike, the answer is (c). By me, the answer is (b). if the slipup is true, then (c) is correct. but I believe (b) is correct, therefore the slipup can't be true. Hope I clarified things :)
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Unown writes:
Your logic is wrong. Jesse met another kid and he admired her badges. She looked at his badges and the KID had different badges. The badges Jesse stole from Otoshi were like Ash's. THAT IS AS PLAIN AS IT GETS!!!!!
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Timtim writes:
Thank you, Unown! That's exactly what I was trying to explain! Metalmike wouldn't accept my idea, and now that you've explained I hope everything's clarified again. This would then imply that this slipup is worth 0(fake).
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