Right after the Condo blows up and Ed Norton calls Tyler from the payphone, he hangs up after a few rings. Then the phone rings again and Tyler says "I star 69'ed you, I never answer my phone."
When Brad Pitt & Ed Norton are living in Tyler's house, Marla calls them on a rotary phone.
On rotary phones, you can dial a star by dialing "11". Look in the info. in the front of a phone book to see what I am talking about. i.e. you can dial "*69" or "1169" if you have a rotary phone.
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Spoiler ahead - don't read if you still want to see the movie. And watch it twice! Just a thought. If Brad and Ed's character are the same person, and the whole conversation is taking place in 'their' head, does it really matter whether *69 can't be done on a rotary phone. 'He' is imagining the phone call - so where it comes from is irrelevant. Hmmmmm!
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Ok people. It's simple. Jack (edward Norton) and Tyler (Brad pit) are simply the same person. Over and over again throughout the movie, we see small inconsistancies in character development, plot, and details. These are all integral parts of the story. The *69 issue, the flickers of tyler at odd moments, everything that seems a little out of place is done intentionally because we are seeing the story through the eyes of a man who has a second personality built into his brain that he isn't even aware of up until the end. As far as the times when Jack and Tyler interact, it's edward norton's character talking to himself, beating the hell out of himself, etc. Yes, he did fight himself in front of people. Remember the scene where he beats himself up in front of his boss? The narration comments on how "for some reason, I remembered my first fight with Tyler". The film is brilliant, and the things you guys are picking up on were done on purpose.
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Socrates, in the driving car scene, "Jack" is imagining himself watching Tyler, but in reality, he is in the driver seat, driving. And, there is no one in the front passenger seat. Hope this clears that up. And, warren, Ed's character(referred to as Jack) actually does speak aloud some of his conversations with Tyler. For instance, the moment where "Jack" is in the hallway, and Tyler opens up his door after 'humping' Marla and talks to him. Then, after the brief conversation, Marla says "Who were you talking to?"
And, in the car ride, "Jack" was actually speaking to himself, or I would assume so since the two bodyguards in back gave each other strange looks, maybe from the confusion of seeing their boss speaking to himself while driving. Hope this helps.
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Most of you are missing the point. Since Tyler and the narrator (or Jack..!) are the same person, there really is noone at the other end. This is put there, as posted earlier on, to show that the conversation only takes place in Jack´s mind. It doesn´t matter at all if there is a touchphone, a rotary phone or even a cellular phone at Tylers house. This is definitely not a slip-up!
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And it didn't occur to any of you that there may be more than one phone in the house? Perhaps in Tyler's bedroom. (when Tyler and Marla are "going at it" they stop when the phone rings, Tyler/"Jack" could have answered the phone from any room.
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Dear Trish
Use the 'pause' feature on your VCR or DVD player and take a good long look at the phone in the old house where Ed and Brad are living. THERE IS NO BUTTON!
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Uh, no he doesn't. "Jack" gets out himself, but in his head he is being helped out. I mean, with the plot of THIS movie, a dog could have been saving him!! It doesn't mean sh!t. For all WE know. The whole movie, he could have been sitting in his loungeroom, thinking it all up. It's a masterpiece of a movie, and EVERYTHING could have been a dream. You are wrong.
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He is driving the car with the two guys in the back as bodyguards. He asks What is the one thing they would do before dying. They answer. Then in his own head he asks (as Tyler) to Norton. The two in the back know nothing of what is going on in his head. They are in the back of a car with a crazy driving and crashing. They are crazy in their own way and let it happen.
Whenever we see the two together talking, it is in his head. When one is doing something it is that part that is in control. And has no-one got out of it what I got out of it?? That there are no credit-card businesses anymore!! We are entering a new world where we all start out the same.
Please protect me from what I want!!
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I know this is in the same line as some of the other observations but in the fight scenes when you finally see Ed fighting 'with himself', he is clearly being dragged by his elbows in a backward motion. That would be impossible to do by yourself. Yes, you could beat yourself up so maybe there is some kind of supernatural person in this movie. Just a thought. Also, what about when Tyler and 'Jack' are fighting in the fight club? If 'Jack' is standing there punching himself, I would have thought all of his followers would have thought he was a weirdo!!! And he was so blooded up after that fight that he must have been punching himself.
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Right after Ed's character finds the van loaded with explosives (near the end of the movie) he tries to disarm the bomb, Tyler tries to stop him and they have a huge fight in the carpark, in which Ed's character is dragged around and thrown down the stairs. While this is happening, it is being recorded by a security camera, and we are shown footage on the security screen of Ed fighting with what looks like himself (which what we all know is an imaginary person). So they actually fight twice in the movie.
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no, see jack was just imagining that he was talking to tyler. in real life, he WAS tyler. and whenever tyler was around him jack imagined that he was watching tyler. and they just thought beating himself up added to his level of complexity.
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If you watch. He wasn't in the kitchen when he said he *69. Am I the only one with two phones in my house. But the others were right with he didn't really call him back
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I'm thinking this ISN'T a slipup, but it is an interesting tid bit, so instead of slamming the person who wrote it, maybe just think "oh thats interesting" and move on? Everyone write the same message over and over in the fight club comments.
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In response to the "how could he be driving the car?" logic, he WASN'T. If you remember, Near the end, it went back and showed the real Tyler (I've got logic for calling him Tyler, as should everyone)doing everything that the imaginary Tyler (Pitt) did in the movie. Why should the car thing be any different? Why couldn't he have been driving? The movie didnt show him leading fight club, but he did, etc.
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I'm sorry, but you people are being big babies over this movie. Ed's character sees Tyler, but he also acts like him. Otherwise, the members of Fight Club wouldn't have been so intrigued by Tyler. And later on in the movie, Ed asks the bartender how he knows him, and the bartender says. "You're Tyler Durnham." Pretty crazy huh guys? Maybe some of you should watch the movie multiple times.
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