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Lord of the Flies, The - Dark Side of the Moon?

At one point in the book, the sun is setting in the west, whilst in the east a pale, thin crescent moon is rising.

This is astronomically impossible -- if the moon is rising at about the time the sun is setting, it has to be on the opposite side of the Earth, which means that it can only be a full moon. (For the same reason, a lunar eclipse can only occur at full moon, and a solar eclipse only at new moon.)

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Homer writes:: Umm... I think you're thinking about Lord Of The Rings...; 32 of 37 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Bunyip writes:: This guy's premise about the moon rising being on the opposite side of the earth when the sun sets, seems to go back to the time when people thought everything rotated around the Earth. Maybe this guy's home town is the center of all rotation. I saw a crescent moon in the east as the sun set last week (23rd August 2001, Australia). It is quite common. By the way I don't like your requirement for American spelling.; 8 of 12 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Monti writes:: the point is not that the moon can be seen in the day. The point is that, if the sun and the moon are on opposite sides of the earth (which they would have to be if the sun sets while the moon rises) then the moon would be full, but in that scene, the moon was a crescent.; 5 of 7 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Bob writes:: It's called Artistic Lisence.; 7 of 11 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

alabanzai writes:: I don't know about anyone else, but I have seen the moon out in the daytime.; 11 of 21 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

boredwitless writes:: A full moon occurs when the earth is NOT in-between the sun and the moon. When the moon is a crescent the earth is casting it's shadow on the moon. If you are able to see both the moon and the sun above the horizon (perfectly possible as the moons orbit around the earth is not on the same plane as the earth around the sun) then the earth cannot be obscuring the suns view of the moon. As you are viewing both objects from the surface of the planet, which to us is effectively flat, the earth cannot be obscuring the suns view of the moon as it would have to also obscure our view of the moon (sorry, bit of a brain twister). The only thing which can be said is that if the sun and the moon are at opposite sides of the horizon the moon will be, or approaching, a full moon. When the moon is on the same side of the horizon (same side of the earth) the moon will approach being a crescent. This is not because the earth is casting a shadow on the moon but because you are viewing part or all of the dark side of the moon (the side of the moon which is in night). The extreme form of this is a solar eclipse when the moon covers our view of the sun and all we can see is the dark side of the moon.; 3 of 6 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Inked Elf writes:: Number 1: the moon rises and sets North-East, and South-West. This is bc of the tilt of the Earth and all of that crap. Number 2: in some areas of the world the moon and sun can be out at the same time. I was in Arizona for several months and one of the things that I noticed there was that no matter what time it was the moon was out. All day, Every day.; 0 of 0 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Daine writes:: <> They're not on a field trip. There was a war, and the boys were being taken from Britain for their safety. Their parents didn't want them in Britain if there was going to be bombing. The plane then crashed on an island somewhere.; 1 of 4 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Mindy Doll writes:: No, during WW1 the kids were sent to the country-side or America, not to Australia or whereever they were going before they crashed. Same in WW2.; 1 of 6 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Anna writes:: All right, everyone. Please, pretty please, stop talking about the book happening in WWI or WWII. THIS BOOK IS FUTURISTIC! Use your context clues here, please. For example, when Ralph and Piggy first meet and are discussing how they got on the island, they say nothing about a PLANE crash, rather, they say that the CABIN of the plane crashes. Piggy says "He must have flown off after he dropped us" (referring to the captain.) Then, a few sentences later, he says, "When we was COMING DOWN I looked through one of them windows. I saw the OTHER PART of the plane." *skip a sentence* "And this is what the cabin done" (referring to the scar on the land) Now, as far as I know, there is no plane currently in existence that can drop the passenger cabin and keep right on flying. Maybe many years in the future.; 5 of 14 people found this comment helpful. Did you?

Mindy Doll writes:: Ok time to clear things up. 1. it doesn't happen in middle earth that's lord of the rings! 2. it does happen in a fantasy world (where else would British school boys take a field trip to the east Indies?) 3. YOU CAN SEE THE MOON IN THE DAY!!!! i'm looking at it right now and it's 8:00 a.m.; 5 of 18 people found this comment helpful. Did you?